Building Inspection Commission
BUILDING INSPECTION COMMISSION (BIC)
Department of Building Inspection (DBI)
SPECIAL MEETING
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 at 2:00 p.m.
City Hall, 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place, Room 400
Aired Live on SFGTV Channel 78
ADOPTED June 20, 2007
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The special meeting of the Building Inspection Commission was called to order at 2:03 p.m. by President Walker.
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Call to Order and Roll Call – Roll call was taken and a quorum was certified. |
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COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENTS: |
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Debra Walker, President Criss Romero, Commissioner |
Frank Lee, Vice-President |
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Ann Aherne, Commission Secretary |
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D.B.I. REPRESENTATIVES: |
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Isam Hasenin, Director Bill Strawn, Communications Manager
Sonya Harris, Secretary |
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CITY ATTORNEY’S OFFICE REPRESENTATIVES: |
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Discussion regarding the Director’s departmental reorganization as presented in the Director’s May 7, 2007 Departmental Assessment.
Director Hasenin said that he prepared a memo to distribute to all of the Commissioners and members of the public. Director Hasenin stated that he was addressing some of the questions that came up during a Closed Session, and one was the format of the new management positions he was proposing to add in the coming year’s budget, and how they would be organized. Director Hasenin proceeded to read the memo which stated the following points:
Commissioner Theriault stated that he would like to confirm that the seven positions would be exempt positions. Deputy City Attorney, John Malamut, said that the positions are exempt for three years, and the City Attorney’s Office has been working closely with the Director on these particular positions, as to how they would be created, and their treatment. Mr. Malamut stated that in this case the positions are exempt from the Civil Service process. Commissioner Theriault asked what would happen after three years. Director Hasenin stated when DBI gets through the business process reengineering over the next few months, he would see how things were going; if the Department was achieving the goals and objectives that were set the Department could try to make the positions permanent. Director Hasenin said that he was not certain about how this would be done, and mentioned going back to the Civil Service Commission, reorganizing the Department, or possibly having to go to the voters in San Francisco with a Charter amendment.
Commissioner Theriault asked if the Commission needed to make a motion regarding this discussion. Deputy City Attorney, John Malamut, said that the program the Director created to reorganize the Department was something where the Commission could give direction to the Director, but was not something that the Commission approves or denies. Mr. Malamut stated that because this was a discussion item there was no action to be taken. President Walker stated that the Commission approved this in concept before, but questions came up during the process and said she thought it was a good idea to bring it forward periodically to clarify some of the questions that came up; however, the Commission could not really address it.
Commissioner Murphy said that he was not sure what kind of signal the Commission was sending. Commissioner Romero stated that the Commission was not sending any signal, but said he is familiar with how the civil service process works. Commissioner Romero said that in three years the Director can basically do what he wants to do with the positions. Commissioner Romero stated that the Director could extend the exempt status or make them permanent without having to go through any organization. Commissioner Romero said that it is a system that exists for Director Hasenin to use now, whether the Commission likes it or not since that is just the way civil service works. Commissioner Sattary asked if one of the seven positions was filled with a person who is in the Department now that has a civil service position, and at some point he or she has been let go, would they retain their civil service status or go back to the same position. Director Hasenin said that he did not know the answer to that question, because he was not an expert on civil service. Deputy City Attorney, John Malamut, stated that any existing employees of the City can take a leave of absence, apply for an exempt position for its term and when that term ends the person could go back and assume their prior position with the City.
Commissioner Theriault stated that this kind of question could be addressed by each individual applying for the positions themselves. Commissioner Theriault said that the individual could decide according to the information available from the Department of Human Resources and the Civil Service Commission, as to whether or not to accept the position, or reply to the position depending on what it would do to their civil service status. Commissioner Murphy asked if all of the positions were going to be filled within the Department. Director Hasenin said that he was going to be opening up all of these positions by Friday, June 1st and the positions would be advertised widely both inside and outside of the City. Director Hasenin stated that the Department would be advertising throughout California and beyond to attract top talent for these positions.
Commissioner Murphy said that he wanted to ask questions about these positions during the interview process, but was told it was not appropriate at that time. Commissioner Murphy stated that the Commission should not run the day-to-day processes at the Department, since the Commission went through the process of hiring a Director to do so. Commissioner Murphy said the Commission interviewed 8 to 10 of the best people in the country, and picked the best so the Commission should not put shackles on the Director. Commissioner Murphy stated that he believed that the Commission had the power to dismiss the Director if the Commission was not satisfied with the Director’s performance. Deputy City Attorney, John Malamut, stated that Commissioner Murphy was correct.
Commissioner Romero stated that he did not agree with Commissioner Murphy and it did not have anything to do with the way the Commission thinks the Department should be run. Commissioner Romero said that there are some considerations under civil service, and there should be basic human decency about the way people were released from the Department. Commissioner Romero stated that he was very clear about the capabilities and the position of the Director, but he is also clear about what the restrictions are under civil service in terms of what a Department Director can and cannot do. Commissioner Romero said that he did not think the BIC had the authority to give the Director extended privileges that he is not afforded under civil service with the City, or with any of the agreements that the City has made on behalf of the Department. Commissioner Romero stated that if the Director goes beyond this that the Department could get tied up in litigation.
Commissioner Murphy said that the current Commission spent the last year-and-a-half wrestling away power from outside influences, and said he did not want the public to view this Commission as being the same as previous Commissions.
Director Hasenin stated that in regard to clarification about the civil service rules and recent managerial changes that he could assure Commissioner Romero that he worked with the City Attorney’s Office and the Department of Human Services, at the highest levels to ensure that he followed every procedure each step of the way.
President Walker said that the Commission was not sending any kind of message, but the Director was just updating them as to what was happening and to explain his process. President Walker called for public comment.
Mr. Ken Cleveland of the Building Owners and Management Association (BOMA) spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said people should let the Director show everyone a better way of running the Building Department. Mr. Cleveland said that DBI was going through “growing pains” right now, and the Director should be allowed to do his job.
Mr. Dennis Carlin, Vice-President of the Building Inspector’s Association, spoke in support of Director Hasenin. Inspector Carlin said that the Building Inspector’s Association was concerned about how the changes would affect them, through hiring of seniors, chiefs, etc. Inspector Carlin stated that he was a contractor, before he was an inspector and said he agreed that the process needs to be streamlined for the customers.
Mr. Pat Buscovich of the Applied Technology Council (ATC) spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that he was on the Building Inspection Commission in 1995 and when the BIC had the authority to pick the Director, and ratify the Director’s selection of Assistant Director, and Deputy Directors. Mr. Buscovich said that when someone hires a contractor to build a house they do not tell that contractor how to do it, therefore the Commission should let Director Hasenin do his job instead of giving him advice here and there because they would be co-mingling their responsibility.
Mr. Jeremy Paul spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said it was going to take a lot of confidence in a Director to turn this Department around in a way that the whole City will notice. Mr. Paul stated that some unpleasant decisions are going to be made, and friends that staff has worked with for a lot of years are going to experience personnel shifts that will not always make everyone happy, but the Director should be supported in any way possible.
Mr. John Kilbin spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that he has had the impression that DBI was inefficient, very bureaucratic, and had long delays. Mr. Kilbin said that the Commission made a good decision in selecting the Director and that the Commission should not micromanage the Director, but let him get on with the job of reorganizing the Department.
Mr. Drake Gardner spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said that he was a member of the design and building community, and is very interested in streamlining the process since the design and building community do not feel that they are getting anything done. Mr. Gardner stated that he met with the Director and said that the Director was willing to talk about any aspect of the process and to listen to input. Mr. Gardner said that the design and building community supports Director Hasenin wholeheartedly and said he hoped that the process would not get politicized like it has been in the past.. Mr. Sean Keighran of the Residential Builders Association (RBA) spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said that the Director has approached this position with the right philosophy. Mr. Keighran stated that the Director understands the civil service process, has an ongoing rapport with the union representatives, and most important respects the hard workers at DBI.
Mr. Ritchie Harte of the RBA spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that great cities need great leaders, and the Commission made a good choice. Mr. Harte said that no one can keep all of the people happy all of the time, but stated that staff morale is a key element. Mr. Harte agreed that there should be a nationwide search for the seven new employees/managers.
Mr. John O’Connor of the RBA spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said the Commission should give the Director a vote of confidence, and not meddle with hires at DBI. Mr. O’Connor stated that for many years there was nobody in the Building Department to make a decision, but now there is.
Mr. John Singleton spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that he was a retired building inspector who worked for the City for 18 years. Mr. Singleton said that when he worked at DBI managers were afraid to make decisions, possibly because people were looking over their shoulder. Mr. Singleton stated that the Director should have absolute power to hire his deputies and managers, and that the Commission has the absolute power to fire the Director if he does not live up to their expectations.
Ms. Kelton Finney of Santos & Urrutia said that she worked for structural engineers and stated that she was present to lend her support to Director Hasenin. Ms. Finney said that she believed the Director is eminently qualified and should be given every chance to implement his vision. Ms. Finney stated that it was refreshing to have a Director that had no agenda other than to run the Department efficiently.
Mr. Joel Panser of the Professional Property Management Association spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that in the past the system at DBI was intimidating, and people felt like they had to take shortcuts and use expediters for help. Mr. Panser said that simplifying the system and making it more transparent by using computers more effectively would allow the public to apply for permits online, check the status, and so on. Mr. Panser stated that the internet facilitates the customer’s access and makes customers want to use the system to apply for permits more frequently. Mr. Panser urged the Commission to continue the Community Action Plan for Seismic Safety (CAPSS).
Mr. John Pollard introduced himself as the owner of several businesses with 167 employees that depend on his company’s ability to obtain building permits. Mr. Pollard stated that last year he had to lay off 55 employees because of problems with obtaining those permits. Mr. Pollard spoke in support of Director Hasenin and mentioned that Director Hasenin took the time to meet and something as simple as unlocking the stairway at 1660 Mission to customers was solved. Mr. Pollard stated that the Inspection Division at DBI is incredible and is the only division that functions: Plumbing, Electrical, and Building Inspectors all show up to do their inspections. Mr. Pollard said that the Plan Check Division needs a lot of work.
Mr. Joe Cassidy spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that he has been a customer of DBI for 27 years, and said he wished the Director of City Planning had the same power as Director Hasenin has. Mr. Cassidy said that the biggest disaster is that there is little or no construction going on in San Francisco and the Department will be severely impacted in the future. Mr. Cassidy stated that the Department needs to be straightened out because customers want their permits on time, since it is the customers who pay the fees.
Mr. Ahmad Larizadeh spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said that he was amazed that the Director was able to come in and make changes so quickly that it made everybody nervous. Mr. Larizadeh stated that when the Director made the changes everyone started to complain. Mr. Larizadeh said that the Director has done a great job and said that he appreciates the Director’s open door policy.
Mr. James Gallagher spoke in support of Director Hasenin and stated that he is a small business owner, and the most challenging thing for him each week is basically keeping people working. Mr. Kelly said that another challenge is just getting permits and said he would support any changes to make the process more efficient.
Mr. Gus Marad spoke in support of Director Hasenin and said that he owned a small business, and did not do too much construction but has heard of a lot of issues in the Building Department. Mr. Marad stated that lately people have been hearing a lot of good things about DBI and he commended the Commission for hiring Director Hasenin. Mr. Marad asked that the Commission not tie the Director’s hands, but just let him do his job. |
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Discussion regarding the Director’s recommendation of a process related to the search for and appointment of the Assistant Director of the Department of Building Inspection and two Deputy Director positions. |
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Adjournment.
Commissioner Romero, made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Theriault to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
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Respectfully submitted,
__________________ Sonya Harris
__________________ Ann Marie Aherne |
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SUMMARY OF REQUESTS BY COMMISSIONERS |
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Director Hasenin said that he would like to set up a Closed Session to bring forward the names of the people he would be selecting for the Assistant Director, and two Deputy Director positions. – Hasenin |
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Deputy City Attorney John Malamut said that two issues the Commission could hold a separate meeting for are: 1) To adopt the criteria the BIC would want to look at to ratify the three positions. 2) Develop criteria for the Director’s evaluation. President Walker said that these items could be agendized for the June 20th meeting. – Malamut, Walker |
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