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O  .0 Odd d ddA&"Circular Gradientdd  !  _  XX(   NXX!O?;z|7 `pR@@@E X" X#XXN#NXXBuildingInspectionCommission(BIC) X JointMeetingwiththeCityPlanningCommission l *AdoptedonJuly1,1998 ( #XXNZ#Thursday,May28,1998,at1:30p.m. < WarMemorialBuilding,401VanNessAvenue,4thFloor,Room410 ( 9cXX  A& ) , d8 E , AMINUTES  D  XXcTheJointMeetingoftheBuildingInspectionCommission(BIC)andtheCityPlanningCommission   (_CPC_)wascalledtoorderbyBICPresidentHoodand_CPC_ԀPresidentChinchillaat1:40p.m.    7R  '9@9,XX'7RE1  .0 e   ROLLCALL 󀄀Rollcallwastakenandaquorumwascertified. 7REیp e(#e(# Ќ  0 e BUILDINGINSPECTIONCOMMISSIONMEMBERSPRESENT: Le(#e(#  e   BobbieSueHood, President  8  e   _Armando_ԀVasquez, VicePresident  (  e   Mona_Cereghino_, Commissioner  p  e   AlfonsoK._Fillon_, Commissioner  `  e   SharonMark, Commissioner 0 I 0I(#I(# P(#(#  e    e     COMMISSIONMEMBERSABSENT:  ,  e       RoyGuinnane, Commissioner #cXX#XXcԀ   e       SigmundFreeman, Commissioner excusedabsence     e     COMMISSIONSTAFFPRESENT :  0 e 0e(#e(#    Maria_Banico_, CommissionSecretary|(#(#  e   0  0(#(#GarlandSimpson, RecordingSecretary l(#(#   e 0  0(#(#_D.B.I._ԀREPRESENTATIVES : I   H(#(#  e       Frank_Chiu_, Director  8  e       JimHutchinson, DeputyDirectorforPermitServices   (  e       WilliamWong, DeputyDirectorforInspectionServices  p!   e CITYPLANNINGCOMMISSIONMEMBERSPRESENT:0  L# "(#(#  e   HectorChinchilla, President 8$!#  e   Anita_Theoharis_, VicePresident (%"$  0 e 0e(#e(#CynthiaJoe, Commissioner &#%(#(#  e   LawrenceMartin, Commissioner  '$&  e   BeverlyMills, Commissioner '%'   e     COMMISSIONMEMBERSABSENT:  )|')  e       Dennis_Antenore_, Commissioner *h(*  e       RichardHill, Commissioner +X)+  e     COMMISSIONSTAFFPRESENT:  -4+-  e       LindaAvery, CommissionSecretary x. ,. _ԇ e     D.C.P.REPRESENTATIVES:   0 e 0e(#e(#0(#(#0(#(#GeraldGreen, Director(#(#  e       RobertPassmore, ZoningAdministrator   e     0  MaryGalagher, ChiefCityPlanner   (#(#  e 0 e CITYATTORNEYSOFFICEREPRESENTATIVES e(#e(#  e   JudyBoyajian, DeputyCityAttorney     e    u  5(v  5(vA  .0 e   SPECIALCALENDAR 5(vیa pe(#e(# Ќ  6fmfr X9@9,X6f9 r DCPDirectorGeraldGreenwelcomedmembersofthetwoCommissionsandmembersof M \  thepublictothejointmeetingandsaidthatthiswasthefirsttimethattheBICandtheCPChave 9 H  heldajointmeeting.Hesaidthisjointmeetingispartofanefforttoimprovecoordination %4  betweenthetwodepartmentsofCPCandDBIiswelcomeandhasthesupportoftheMayors   Office.Thepurposeofthismeetingistoimprovethepermitprocess.Hesaidthattheagenda   waspreparedwiththisinmind.Theremaybeothermeetingsinthefutureonothertopics.Mr.   Greenbehoovedtheparticipantsinthemeetingandtheaudiencetopointatrealproblemsand   solutionstothepermitprocessingeneralandnotusethisforumtoassessblameorsingleout  membersofstafforspecificprojects.   r DBIDirectorFrankChiualsowelcomedmembersofthetwoCommissions.Hespoke  aboutthepurpose,missionstatementandtheorganizationoftheDepartmentofBuilding q Inspection.HealsodescribednewprogramsandinnovationsinthedepartmentsuchastheOne ]l StopPermitCoordinationProgramandthelaunchingofthedepartmentswebsite. IX  r CPCPresidentChinchillaaskedDirectorChiutodescribethebuildingpermitforatypical !0 project,fordiscussionpurposes.    r DirectorChiusaidthatforatypicalprocess,forexampleakitchenremodel,thebuilding  permitisissuedoverthecounteriftherearenochangestotheoutsideofabuilding,including  windows,andnostructuralwork.   r DirectorGreenaddedthatPlanningstaffreviewisnotrequiredforsuchaprojectunder   Section311ofthePlanningCode.Therearenoplanningrequirementsuntilacertainthresholdis !  reached,afterthatthreshold,planningreviewandotherplanningcodesaretriggered.#cXX^ #XXc m"|!  r CPCPresidentChinchillaaskediftheinitialdeterminationonwhetherplanningreviewis E$T # neededismadebyaclerkofDBI. 1%@!$  r DBIDirectorChiusaidthatthereareguidelinesforDBIstafftouse.  '#&  r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatthestaffofbothdepartmentsmeetregularly.Thefirststepin ($( filingforapermitistofilloutaform.Basedontheinformationsuppliedbytheapplicantonthis )%) form,DBIthenrefersthepermittootherdepartments. *&*  r DBIDirectorChiusaidthatanothertypicalpermitisaresidentialextension.Hesaidthat ,(, DBIstafffirstrefersthistoPlanningstaff.DBIreviewstartsonlyaftergettingthegreenlight }-)- fromPlanningstaff. i.x*. Ї r CPCDirectorGreensaidthattherearenoticerequirementsforvarioustypesofpermits.  Thetwodepartmentshavedifferentnoticerequirements.CityPlanningusuallysendsoutnotice  beforethedecisiononanapplication.DBIusuallysendsoutnoticeafteradecisionhasbeen  issued.   r DBIDirectorChiuagreedwiththisdescriptionwiththeexceptionofdemolition  applicationswhereDBIsendsoutnoticesbeforeandafterthedecisionontheapplication. y   r PlanningCommissionerTheoharissaidthattherearesubstantialchangesthataremadein Q ` addendasubmittalsforsitepermits.SheaskediftherewasaDBIprocessinplacetorefer = L  changesbacktoPlanningstaff. ) 8   r DBIDirectorChiusaidthatrevisedplansgobacktothestaffinPlanningwhoprocessed   the   originalsitepermitapplicattion.    r CPCCommissionerMillsaskedhowDBIkeepstrackofthesereferrals.Sherequestedthat  DBIlistentotheissuesbroughtupduringtherestofthismeetingwithanearonwhattheOne  StopProgramcandotoprovidesolutions.   r DBICommissionerCereghinoaskediftheDepartmentofCityPlanninghadstaffavailable ap toenforcetheplanningcode. M\  r DBIDirectorChiusaidthattheenforcementofbuildingpermitsistheresponsibilityof %4 DBI.Theinspectorsmakesurethatthecodesarefollowed.    r BICPresidentHoodaskedhowDCPhandlesincomingcomplaints.DoesDCPcallupDBI  toenforcethecodes.   r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatDCPinformsDBIofinformationreceivedonviolationsof  theBuildingCode.DCPhasstopped,aswasdoneinthepast,askingDBIinspectorstofield  checkviolations.IfaviolationorcomplaintisrelatedtothePlanningCode,DCPstaffgoesout   themselves. q!   r DBICommissionerCereghinoaskedifDBIstaffaretrainedontheenforcementofthe I#X" PlanningCode. 5$D #  r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatmostviolationsofthePlanningCodearealsoviolationsof  &"% theBuildingCode. &#&  r CPCPresidentChinchillaaskedifthetwodepartmentshadseparatecomputersystems. ($(  r DBIDirectorChiusaidthatthereisonlyonesystemthattracksallbuildingpermits. *&*  r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatthereisonesystemfortracking,butthetwodepartments ,(, havedualdatabases. m-|)-  Y.h*.  r CPCPresidentChinchillaaskedifthissituationhindersthepermitprocess.   r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatinsomewaysthecurrentsystemaffectsthepermitprocess.  HesaidthattheDepartmentofCityPlanningwillbeconvertingtotheOraclesystematsome  futuredate.ThiswillallowhookupintoDBIscomputersystems.   r DBIDirectorChiusaidthatDBIsOraclebasedsystemisalmostcompleteandthereisan y  operationalprototypeonthegroundfloor. e t  r BICPresidentHoodsaidthatthereshouldbecompleteinformationonplanssubmittedfor = L  permitsthatshowtheactualworktobedone.Theinformationprovidedonplansvaries.She ) 8  solicitedinputonhowtoimprovethispartoftheprocess. $   r CPCDirectorGreensaidhehadsomethoughtsonthisissuewhichhehasnothadachance   todiscusswithDBIDirectorChiuasofyet.Hesaid,onesolutioncouldbethattherebea15day   periodfromthetimeabuildingpermitisissuedbeforeworkcancommence.Duringthis15day   period,aninitialinspectioncanbemadetoverifytheactualconditionsinthestructurepriortothe  startofconstruction.Thisinitialinspectioncouldberequired.Anothersourceofimprovements  wouldbetheuseoftheGIS(geographicinformationsystem).   r CPCPresidentChinchillasaidthatthereshouldbestrongerpenaltiesforpeoplewho ap submitwronginformationonplans.Thedepartmentsshouldlookatavailablerecoursesuchas M\ statepenaltiesonlicensesandcertification.Anotheravenuewouldbeperjury. 9H  r (CPCCommissionerMartinarrivedatthispointinthediscussionat2:25p.m.)    r BICPresidentHoodandCPCPresidentChinchillaopenedthefloortopubliccomment.   r Ms.EdithMcMillansaidthattheagendaforthismeetingstatedsevenseparatetopics.She  askedforproceduralclarificationonthetimelimitsforspeakers.Shesaidthatitwouldnotbe  possibletocoverallsevenitemsinthreeminutes.   r CPCPresidentChinchillasaidthattheCommissionswouldallowspeakerstoaddresseach q!  topicforuptothreeminutes. ]"l! 9XWd XXX#XX X9XWd8#:f 1.InformationProcedures %*!$     F    9"0    Publicnotices 9R9݌&"%(#(# Ќ   F       9"0    Communicationbetweendepartments 9 :݌&#&(#(# Ќ      F    :"0    Computersystemsfortrackingthestatusofapplications ::݌'#'(#(# Ќ      F    x;"0    Completeinformationonplansandaccuratedescriptionofproposals #cXX# x;;݌($((#(# Ќ  f:XXc r Ms.McMillansaidthatnoticeprovidedisnotadequateandawiderradiusshouldbeused. +&'* Errorsinnoticingcompoundtheproblems.Shesaidthatcommunicationsbetweenthetwo ,(+ departmentsisgettingbetterbutisstillnotwhatitoughttobe.Thecomputersystemshave ,(, problemsandcitedapermitthatwas resurrectedaftersixyearswhichwasnotreferredbackto -)- CPC.Shesaidthattheinformationonplansisnotcompleteandsometimessemanticsisusedto .*. avoidpermitrequirements.Shesaidthattrainingisneeded.   r Ms.PatriciaVaughysaidthatthereispreferentialtreatmentbeinggiven.Shesaidthat  therearecertainpeoplewhohavegreateraccesstoDBIstaff.Ms.Vaughysubmitteda  memorandumfromDBIstaffallowingMr.WalterWongaccesstothebuildingoutsideofregular  workinghours.Shesaidthatthereshouldbedailycheckontheaddressesofpermitsissued.  PermitexpeditersshouldberequiredtoregisterwiththeEthicsCommission.Shesaidthatitisa y  conflictofinterestswhenstaffrecommendstoanapplicanttoworkwithaparticularexpediter. e t  r Mrs.SimaKushnirskyaddressedtheCommissionsandspokeaboutaparticularpermit = L  application.Whendirectedbythechairtoaddresstheagendaitem,shesaidthattheprocessis ) 8  veryconfusing. $   r Mr.BillDeitchaskedwherenotificationwillstopifitistobeexpanded.Hesaidthathe   feelsthecurrentrequirementsareadequate.    r Mr.IrvingRosenthalsaidthatMr.RobertPassmore,ZoningAdministrator,needsstaffto  enforcethePlanningCodeandconditionsofapproval.HeaddressedDBIDirectorChiuandDBI  DeputyDirectorWong.HesaidthattheissuanceofaNoticeofViolationonacertainproperty  wasdelayedfortwoweeksbecauseofacallfromMs.MillieValdezfromtheMayorsOffice.He u askedDBIDirectorChiutofollowuponthismatterandinquiredwithInspectorJohnSimsand ap ChiefInspectorWingLau. M\  r BICPresidentHoodrequestedDBIDirectorChiutolookintothismatter. %4  r Mr.JoeODonoghue,ResidentialBuildersAssociation,saidthatitisamazingthatthere   arenotmorecomplaintgiventhatDBIprocesses55,000permitsperyear.Headdressedthe  commentsmadebyMs.VaughyandsaidthatsomepeopledohavegreateraccesssuchasSue  Hestor,notbasedonthetimetheyareallowedintothebuilding,butthatsomepeopleareallowed  intoareaswhereotherpartiesarenot.Hesaidthatthisresultsinlostplansandthatheperceivesa  nexusbetweentheproblemoflosingplansandcertainpeoplegivenspecialaccesstoareasinboth  DCPandDBI.Hesuggestedtheuseofcomputerchipstotrackplans.Hesaidthathewas   complainingstronglythatsomethingiswrong. q!   r Mr.LeoMcClaughlinsaidthatthedifferentnoticingrequirementsofthedifferent I#X" departmentsisaburden.Hesaidthathehadtoundertakefourseparatenoticingforasingle 5$D # projectandfoundoutthatitwasnotpossibletointegratethisrequirement.HeagreedwithCPC !%0!$ PresidentChinchillathataperjurychargeforwronginformationonplanswillbehelpful.  &"%  r Ms.JudyWesturgedtheCommissionstolookatthebuildingcodeprovisionsonnew '#' construction/liveworkprojectsandrequestedDBItocoordinatewithDCPonthelive/workcode. ($( ShealsourgedtheCommissionstokeepbettertrackoflotmergersandsubdivisionsinregardto )%) trackingchangesofuse. *&* ̀ r Ms.RobertaCaravellidescribedaprojectthatinvolvedthedemolitionofawarehouse ,(, whichimpactedadjacentresidences. m-|)-  Y.h*.  r DavidBarnard,DBIstaff,invitedinterestedpartiestotrythenewDBIcomputersystem.   r AaronPeskinsaidthathehadsoughttheenforcementoftheconditionsofapprovalofa  conditionalusepermit.Hehadtogobackandforthbetweenthetwodepartments.Eventually,it  wasDBIwhoissuedtheNoticeofViolations.Hesaidthathehadresearchedtheproceduresand  nowknowwhichdepartmentdoesthefollowthrough.However,acitizenstillhastogothrough  thebackandforthprocess.HeurgedthetwoCommissionstofigureoutawaytomakethe y  processsimple. e t  r RedmondLyonsaidhewasabuilderwhoseplanshavebeenlostrepeatedly.Hebelieves = L  thatthiswasadelaytactic.Timeisoftheessenceforbuildersandlostplanscostmoney. ) 8   r JohnBardissaidthatmissedstaffdeadlinesandpostponementswereaproblem.Hesaid   thatallinterestedpartiesshouldbenotifiedofpostponementsandshouldbekeptabreastofthe   statusofapermit.    r JakeMcGoldricksaidthathehadverylittlenoticeaboutthismeeting.Thisisverylittle  timeallowedtospeaktoaddresstheissuescompletely.Hesaidthereweremanyexamplesof  illegaldemolitions.Hecouldprovidemoredetailedinformationonspecificprojectsifgiven  moretimetoaddressthisforum. u  r AliceBarkleysaidthatthe15dayinspectionproposedbyDCPDirectorGreenwillnot M\ work.TheBICneedstobeabsolutelyclearaboutitspoliciesonunlawfuldemolition.There 9H shouldbeaseparateprocessforviolationsforexceedingtheallowedscopeofworkonthepermit %4 triggeredbyBuildingCoderequirements.    r DiedreWorkmansaidthatsherepresentedSan#cXX<#XXcFranciscoBeautifulandwishedtothankthe  Commissionsandthedirectorsofthetwodepartmentsfortheeffortstoincreasecoordination  betweenthetwodepartment.Sheaidherorganizationisconcernedwithvariedissuessuchas  billboardsandincreasedcoordinationbetweenthetwodepartmentswillassistintheimproved  enforcementofcodes.   r CPCPresidentChinchillaclosedthepublichearing.#cXXV#XXc q!  :f 2.PermittingProcedures 5$D #  F     Y"0    Applicationreviewbymultipledepartments YY݌!%0!$(#(# Ќ      F  6Z"0    ReviewofbuildingpermitapplicationsatPlanningInformationCounter 6Z]Z݌ &"%(#(# Ќ      F  ["0    Multiplepermits/actionsononeproperty,e.g.,serialpermits  [<[݌&#&(#(# Ќ  f: r EdithMcMillansaidthatthismeetingsgoalwastoimprovethecoordinationbetweenthe ($( twodepartments.Betterrelationshipsbetweenthetwodepartmentsareneeded.Therehasbeen )%) animprovementalreadybutfurtherimprovementsareneeded.Theapplicationreviewprocessby *&* multipledepartmentslooksgoodonpaperbutneedstighteningupinpractice.Shesaidthatthe +'+ issueofserialpermitsshouldbescheduledforanotherjointmeetingtoallowforamoredetailed ,(, discussion. m-|)-  Y.h*.  r PatriciaVaughydescribedseveralpermitapplicationsandsaidthatthedrawingsthatwent  todifferentdepartments/bodies(e.g.,PlanningCommission,Planningstaff,BuildingDepartment  staff)weredifferentfromeachother.Shesaidthattheyhadbroughtuptheconcernthatthe  drawingswerenotaccurateandstaffdidnotlisten.Therefore,thepermitwasissuedandthere  wereproblemsduringtheconstructionprocess.Thereisaneedtofigureoutawaytostopthis  typeofproblem.Shesaidthatthecomputertrackingsystemdoesnotgivecorrectorcomplete  information. y   r RobertaCaravellisaidthattherearemanyproblemsoneofwhichisoverthecounter Q ` permits.Shesaidthatthereisnosysteminplacetotrackwhohasreviewedorsignedoffona = L  permit.Therearemanyerrorswhichshehasfound.Theerrors,forexampleapermitthatwas ) 8  issuedonawrongaddress,arenotcorrected.Thereisnowaytostopfuturemistakesifone $  cannotdeterminewhomadethemistakesinthefirstplace.    r BICPresidentHoodrequestedDBIDirectorChiutorespondtothespeaker.DBIDirector   Chiusaidthatplancheckerssignoffonthebackofplansforpermits,eventhoseissuedoverthe   counter.However,thecomputerfiledoesnotidentifytheplanchecker,onlythedepartmentswho  needtoreviewtheplans.   r BillDeitchsaidthathehadalsoexperiencedthelossofhisplansattheplanning u department.Hesaidthatthediscretionaryreviewprocessallowspartiestodelayprojectswith ap verylittleinvestmentsascomparedtotheinvestmentrisksanddelaycoststhatmustbebourneby M\ thedeveloper.ThereisaneedtorevamptheDRprocess. 9H  r JakeMcGoldrickidentifiedseveraladdresseswhichheclaimeddefactodemolitionhad   occured.Hesaidtherearemanyflawsinthehearingprocess.Forexample,thehearingofficer   foroneaddresswasthesupervisoroftheplancheckerwhoapprovedtheplans.TheZoning  Administratorhasnoonetoenforcetheconditionsofapproval,thesituationissad.Therewere  toomanyissuestoaddress.HesaidhehopedtheCommissionswouldbreaktheissuesdownto  smallerpiecessothatthepubliccouldparticipatemoreeffectively.   r JoeODonoghuesaidthatthecoderequirementsonunlawfuldemolitioncausesa   nightmareforprojectsponsors.Hedescribedaprojectwhichinvolveda400sq.ft.addition q!  whereeightadditionalstuds,notshownontheplans,hadtoberemovedbecauseofdryrot.This ]"l! resultedinconstructionbeinghaltedfromNovembertoMarch.Thepermitwaseventually I#X" upheld.Thereisaneedtodifferentiatebetweenproteststhatarerealandthosethataremeant 5$D # merelytodelayprojects. !%0!$  r JohnBardissaidthattheprotestsanddelaysarecausedbyshortcutsordeviationsallowed &#& bypeoplewhoarepayedtoenforcethecodes.Hesaidthattherehavebeencaseswhenthe '#' ZoningAdministratorhasruledcontrarytotheactionofthePlanningCommissionandsothis ($( casehadtobeappealedtotheBoardofAppeals.HecitedaNoticeofViolationthatwasissued )%) andthenrevised.Hesaidthatthedelaysarecausedbycitystaffwhohadnotcarriedouttheir *&* jobsinaprofessionaloreffectiveway. +'+  r AnastaciaYovonopoloussaidthatshehasheardthattherearepropertyownersand m-|)- contractorswhodonotfollowthepermitprocessforanumberofdifferentreasons.The Y.h*. inspectorsletviolationsflyandthereisnoeffectiveenforcementprocess.   r BICPresidentHoodclosedthepublichearingandinvitedCommissionerstoprovideinput  anddirectiontostaffontheissuesbroughtupduringpublictestimony.   r CPCCommissionerMillssaidthatverificationofthescopeofworkisneeded.Forsingle  permits,thenotificationprocessneedstobeimproved.Thereisalsotheissueofserialpermits y  whichisrelatedtohavingcompleteinformationonplans. e t  r CPCPresidentChinchillasaidthatthesuggestionsbroughtuponhavingtheaddress = L  enteredinthecomputerfileshouldbeimplemented.Hesaidthathewasalsoconcernedaboutthe ) 8  overthecounterpermitsandthatdifferentsetsofplansarebeingsubmittedtodifferent $  departments.Thereisaneedtotrackandhandleplansmoreeffectively.Planningneedstotrack   theimplementationofconditionsandcodesineachsetofplansorresubmittals.    r CPCCommissionerTheoharissaidthatthecomputersneedtobeimproved.Theprintouts   shouldshowtheaddressandalsothestaffmemberinvolved.Shesaidthatthesearesimple  changestoimplement.SheagreedwithCPCPresidentChinchillaonthepenaltyforperjuryfor  wronginformationonplans.Thereshouldbeachecklistoninformationthatshouldbeincluded  inplans.PlanningCommissionerTheoharrissaidshealsowasconcernedaboutthedelaysthat u maybecausedbythediscretionaryreviewprocess.SheaskedCPCDirectorGreenhowlongthe ap processtook. M\  r CPCDirectorGreensaidthatadiscretionaryreviewrequestwascalendaredwithsixto %4 eightweeks.Atthelongest,theprocesstooktwomonths.    r BICCommissionerCereghinosaidthatshehadbeentoldthatthehardcopiesoffilesbeing  scannedwerebeingstoredinboxedandwerenotbeingsorted.   r DBIDirectorChiusaidthathewilllookintohowhardcopiesofscannedfilesarebeing  filed.   r BICCommissionerFillonaddressedMr.ODonoghuescomments.Hesaidifplansare q!  gettinglost,theremustbesomerecompensetotheapplicantsaffectediftheirplansarelost. ]"l!  r DBIDeputyDirectorHutchinsonaddressedMs.Vaughysearliercommentsonthe 5$D # memorandumregardingMr.WalterWong.HesaidthattheFireDepartmentstaffstartsworkat !%0!$ 6:30a.m.DBIthoughtitwasimprovingservicetocustomersbyallowingthemintothebuilding  &"% beforeDBIworkinghours.HesaidthatiftheCommissionershadconcernsaboutthis,the &#& departmentcouldrevertbacktooldpractices.Hesaidthathewilllookintotheissuesoflost '#' plansandmembersofthepublicbeingallowedinemployeeareas. ($(  r BICVicePresidentVasquezsaidthatDBIhasjustinstitutedtheOneStopPermit *&* CoordinationProgramwhichcanaddresssomeoftheroutingproblemsandlossofplans.He +'+ agreedwithBICCommissionerFillonthatthereshouldbesomeaccommodationfortheproject ,(, applicantwhenstafflosestheplanssuchasexpeditingtherepeatplancheck.Headdedthatthe m-|)- BIChadformedacommitteetoaddresstheproblemsondefactodemolitionandlookcloselyat Y.h*. theimpactsofthecode.Hesaidthatthecommitteehadrequestedandisagainrequestingthe  involvementoftheDepartmentofCityPlanning.   r CPCCommissionerMillssaidthatifenforcementisamajorconcernthereshouldbe  appropriatestaffingineachdepartment.   r CPCCommissionerJoesaidthatsometimesdifferentplansaresubmittedtoeach y  departmentonpermitsrequiringmultidepartmentreview. e t  r CPCPresidentChinchillasaidthatthetwodepartmentsshouldlookintoaprocesswhere = L  staffroutesorcarriestheplansfromonedepartmenttotheother.Theapplicantiscurrently ) 8  allowedtosubmitplansatdifferentcounters.Itispossiblethatadifferentplanissubmittedto $  eachdepartment.    r DCPDirectorGreensaidthatcurrentlyplansareinitialedbythestaffpersonwhodidthe   review.HeislookingtotheOneStopProgramtoaddressthisissue.    r BICPresidentHoodsaidthatforprojectsthatcouldpotentiallyleadtoillegaldemolition,  thereisaneedtogetaccurateinformationontheexistingbuildingupfront.   r CPCCommissionerMartinsaidthatheagreedwithBICPresidentHoodandwasinterested ap inMs.Barkleyscomments.HewasencouragedthatDBIDeputyDirectorHutchinsonwas M\ concernedaboutlostplans.Hesaidthathegotthesensefrompublictestimonythatlosingplans 9H isaproblembutthatstaffdoesnotsharethissentiment.Becauseofthis,thereshouldbeareport %4 backonthisissue.Onscanningdocuments,theremaybefutureproblemsbecausethebest   evidencetouseisstilltheoriginaldocument.    r CPCCommissionerJoesaidenforcementofconditionsofapprovalmustbeaddressed.   r DCPDirectorGreensaidthattherewillbeareportbacktothetwoCommissionsonissues  raisedtoday.  :f B.PUBLICCOMMENT  ]"l! f:? Lfmfr X?  PatriciaVaughysaidthatplansthathavebeenmicroficheareloggedinaccordingtodate,not 5$D # accordingtopermitnumber.Thisisthereasonthatplansarehardtofind.SherequestedthatDBI !%0!$ DeputyDirectorWonglookintothisissue.  &"%   RobertaCaravellisaidthatregulatoryagenciesexisttoprotectthepublic.Thisfunctionis '#' moreimportantthanservingthepermitapplicant. ($(   JakeMcGoldricksaidthatthereisaneedtolookintothemotivationsthatleadtounlawful *&* demolition. +'+   DavidBarnardsaidthathehasbeenacting,onavoluntarybasis,asthetransportation m-|)- coordinatorforDBIandCPC.Whenheretires,thereisaneedtoassignatransportation Y.h*. coordinatorforthebuildingtoassistemployeesonMunipasses,Barttickets,etc.Planning  CommissionResolutionNo.9414andCityPlanningCodeSectionNo.163requiretransportation  brokeragesystemsinnewSouthofMarketbuildings.   #cXXX#XXcC.  ADJOURNMENT #cXX#XXc  0  #cXXc#XXc (#(#   TherebeingnootherbusinessandnoobjectionsfrommembersofthetwoCommission,BIC e t PresidentHoodandCPCPresidentChinchilla#cXXƍ#XXcԀadjournedthemeetingat4:15p.m. Q ` 0  0(#(#0 (#(#0  (# (#0 (# (#_________________________________ (#(#          MARIAG.T.BANICO             BICCommissionSecretary   #cXXŽ#XXc#cXXא#cp:\mgb\minutes\52898.wpd